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Solo 401(k) Nonrecourse Loans Now Available April 15, 2008

Posted by Jeff Nabers in : Self Directed IRA Solo 401k , trackback

For many real estate investors, leverage is a key factor to their plans for profits – leverage in the form of mortgage financing. When you introduce mortgage financing into Self Directed IRA ownership of real estate, a special tax called Unrelated Business Income Tax (UBIT) is triggered. The tax often isn’t detrimental as will be covered in another post, but nonetheless it reduces the profit.

For the self employed, a fantastic development has occurred over the past few years – the Solo 401(k). One distinct advantage of the Solo 401(k) over an IRA is that it is not subject to paying UBIT on profits from financed real estate. Eliminating UBIT by using a Solo 401(k) eliminates the need to file a return (Form 990-T) as well as the accompanying tax. Sound pretty good so far?

The difficulty in recent times has been obtaining nonrecourse financing. The leader of NR financing in the Self Directed IRA industry for the past few years has been North American Savings Bank. Last year, they took the familiarity of IRA lending and applied it to Solo 401(k). Unfortunately for many Solo(k) investors, this has only been available to plans who choose to name a custodian as trustee of the plan. Qualified plans (which is what all 401k plans are) are different than IRAs in that they are not required by law to name a custodian (bank or trust company) as trustee of the plan assets. Investors who establish Self Directed Solo 401(k) plans that name themselves as trustee for simplicity have not been able to readily obtain mortgage loans for their Solo (k) plan from NASB.

Well, as of this month, NASB has expanded their loan products to include a nonrecourse loan program for self trusteed Solo 401(k) plans. I caught up with Matt Allen to discuss the great news on UNLIMITED RETIREMENT ACCOUNT® Radio. The skinny is that the program is almost identical to the IRA lending program. If you aren’t familiar with their guidelines, check out the URA Radio show podcast as it become available soon.

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1. Eric Hundin - April 15, 2008

I found your blog on MSN Search. Nice writing. I will check back to read more.

Eric Hundin

2. Ben Gallegos - June 9, 2008

Hello Mr. Nabers,

Great site with a lot of very good information. Thanks for providing it. I do have a question though. I recently learned of someone promoting a self-directed 401k.

They told me that since I own my own for-profit C Corporation that sponsors a Solo 401k, that my 401k could buy my business. They said that it could own say, 95% of my company and I could own the remaining 5%.

But I’m a bit confused. If my 401k plan (or Section 401 Trust) owns my company, and my company makes say, $100K after expenses (EBIT), does this mean that $95K goes to my 401k tax deferred and I get taxed on $5K or is all $100K subject to the Federal Corporate Tax?

I am not sure that I want to do this if I am going to get taxed multiple times (once on my personal salary, once at the corporate level, and yet again when I take distributions from the 401k plan).

Can you provide any guidance on this? Specifically, I’m concerned about the plan ownership of the business. It makes sense that I can buy a business using those funds; I’m just not sure what is deemed to be a return for the 401 Trust if it is a tax deferred 401k plan.

Thanking you in advance of your kind response.

sincerely,

Ben

3. Jeff Nabers - June 9, 2008

Ben,

This collection of investment strategies can certainly be confusing, and hopefully I can help you make sense of it all.

Firstly, there is a post (see it here) that talks about the strategy of financing your own new business with retirement funds.

Secondly, in your scenario the corporation does pay taxes as usual. This concept is touched on in the aforementioned post as well.

Jeff

4. Jessie Bechard - May 17, 2010

Hello:

I am looking for a non-recourse lender to finance five (5) properties that are held by my self-directed Individual Retirement Account (IRA).

Before I go through the application process to qualify each individual property; I was hoping you would please provide me with the following information:

1. Minimum and Maximum loan amount
2. Maximum payback period
3. Interest rate
4. Equity requirement and method used to determine equity
5. Method used to determine current-value
6. Any other relevant details or requirements

If you do NOT handle non-recourse loans, please let me know if there are any alternatives, or lender you would recommend.

Your help is very much appreciated.

Jessie Bechard

5. Jeff Nabers - June 17, 2010

Jessie,

We (Nabers Group) aren’t a lender. We setup IRA LLCs and Solo 401k plans, and we also provide wealth education and coaching.

I’d recommend speaking with the guys over at NASB at http://www.401klending.com.

The answers to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 above fluctuate with time, and frankly a large portion of their loans involve making judgement calls and/or exceptions to their guidelines. They are flexible, and will make logical calls.

Here’s what they like:

- Rental income that pays the mortgage. Preferably rental income equal to 120% or more of the debt service.

Here’s what they don’t like:

- Properties that are essentially a business rather than a stable source of passive income. By this, I mean things like hotels and car washes.

- Weak or nonexistent income from the subject property. If the loan is non-recourse, the bank can only expect to get paid ultimately from rental income. A property with not enough rental income to support the debt payments is one where the bank has no idea how or why it will receive its loan payments.

I hope this helps :-)

– Jeff